Interview produced during "For Those Of Us Who Enjoy Working". Workshops on precariousness and self-organization in "creative" work, organized by Traficantes de Sueños, YProductions, Casa Invisible, Universidad Nómada and Museo Reina Sofía. Jara Rocha is coordinator of special projects at Medialab-Prado, a space oriented towards production, research and dissemination of digital culture and of the area of confluence between art, science, technology and society.